DISCOURSES & TALKS BY MEHER BABA

 

JESUS CHRIST

 

 

23rd August, 1925

 

It is a legend among Hindus, Tibetans and Muslims that Jesus lived and died in India. In the course of talking with the mandali at 9:45 P.M. on Sunday, 23 August, Baba confirmed this:

 

There is one secret about Jesus which the Christians do not know. When Jesus was crucified, he did not die; he entered the state of nirvikalp samadhi [the "I Am God" state without bodily consciousness]. On the third day, he again became conscious of his body and he traveled secretly in disguise eastward (with some apostles) to India. This was called Jesus' "resurrection."

 

After reaching India, he traveled farther east to Rangoon in Burma where he remained for some time. He then went north to Kashmir where he settled. When his work was finished on earth, he dropped his body and entered 'nirvikalp samadhi'. He was buried in Kashmir.

Saints in India have verified these facts about Jesus' travels. Mankind will soon become aware of them.

 

Lord Meher On-line page 611

Lord Meher Vol.3 p.752

 

 

On 22 and 27 May 1926, Baba explained:

 

If someone were to ask me who is greater Tukaram or Ishwar [God], Zoroaster or Ahuramazda, Jesus or God the Father, I would answer emphatically that Tukaram, Zoroaster, and Jesus are greater. In fact, they are the Greatest of the Great because by being a Sadguru or the Avatar they render infinite service to the universe and suffer infinitely by taking upon themselves the burden of the world's infinite amount of sanskaras, which God does not do since he is not conscious of the world. Undoubtedly, a conscious divine person such as Tukaram or Zoroaster, compared to the unconscious [of the world], formless Ishwar or Ahuramazda, is definitely greater!

 

Zoroaster was actually God in human form. In order to work in creation, he had to come down as man among illiterate, fanatical, and hot-tempered humanity. Had Zoroaster told them to worship him, they would have denounced, harassed, and murdered him. They would have thought him an enormous egotist and absolutely crazy. So he taught them to pray to formless God. But in reality, by worshiping formless God, they were worshiping him; and consequently they gained the impression that Ahuramazda was greater than Zoroaster.

Likewise, Jesus did not only claim that "I and my father are one" but he also held out the possibilities of that blessed Union for all who could do away with lust, avarice, and anger. And he also advised meditation upon the Almighty with love.

 

 

Lord Meher On-line page 662

Lord Meher Vol.3 p.802

 

 

5th March, 1928

 

Life at the school ashram returned to a normal schedule again. In the course of his explanations on Monday, 5 March 1928, the Master revealed this about Jesus' statements:

 

 

If poor God were only to sit in heaven like a thief, then He must be pitied. If Jesus said that God is in heaven, then he was not the Christ. But I know that he was perfect and divine, God-incarnate, and never meant that.

 

 

What did Jesus really say? To the multitude he said, "God is in heaven; try to go there," and to that end he said [to overcome] certain temptations and sufferings.

 

 

To his followers he said, "God is everywhere; try to see Him," and gave explanations to that effect.

 

 

To the selected few [close circle of apostles] he said, "God is in me and in you, too," and actually revealed this to them.

 

 

Why did Jesus say different things? Owing to the time and the persons, according to their readiness to listen and understand. What Jesus meant was to leave all and follow him; that means to know him, see him, and experience him.

 

The teachings that are being followed by Christians are not the real teachings that Christ gave. The priests have altered his words, added to his teachings and spoiled them.

 

 

Lord Meher On-line page 917-8

Lord Meher Vol.3 p.1034-5